Comments on: Kids aren’t on the street http://fortunegrey.com/2007/02/15/kids-arent-on-the-street Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:13:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: matt http://fortunegrey.com/2007/02/15/kids-arent-on-the-street#comment-24350 matt Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:10:07 +0000 http://fortunegrey.com/2007/02/15/kids-arent-on-the-street#comment-24350 Agreed, the pidgin-creole metaphor - especially the comment about it not being a metaphor at all - could be the most resonant part of the piece. Agreed, the pidgin-creole metaphor - especially the comment about it not being a metaphor at all - could be the most resonant part of the piece.

]]> By: jace http://fortunegrey.com/2007/02/15/kids-arent-on-the-street#comment-24190 jace Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:52:26 +0000 http://fortunegrey.com/2007/02/15/kids-arent-on-the-street#comment-24190 ps i found the pidgin - creole metaphor used in the NY piece to be particularly compelling. ps i found the pidgin - creole metaphor used in the NY piece to be particularly compelling.

]]> By: jace http://fortunegrey.com/2007/02/15/kids-arent-on-the-street#comment-24189 jace Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:47:55 +0000 http://fortunegrey.com/2007/02/15/kids-arent-on-the-street#comment-24189 i like this viral conversation. Kutuzov wrote: "It’s all well and good to question what’s happening with this data, but exposing the data to the public in the first place is making it fair game for anyone willing to exploit it." and i would say YES -- this is precisely why Google guards its search-data and its algorithms, and this is why Rupert Murdoch's $580 million purchase of MySpace was a _steal_ -- he gets to own & exploit the vast amounts of data generated by MySpace users -- from the rate at which bands are rising or sinking in popularity to what colors are favored by X type of person in Y geographic area with Z interests. Other companies would pay good money to get access to this stuff.... Folksonomy positivity is great but dwarfed, i fear, by privately-owned & controlled meta-data. and by metadata i mean _publicly_ generated maps of desire & datatrails in aggregate, like search histories geomapped to IP addr. ps have you checked http://de.lirio.us/ ? like del.icio.us but open source. i like this viral conversation. Kutuzov wrote: “It’s all well and good to question what’s happening with this data, but exposing the data to the public in the first place is making it fair game for anyone willing to exploit it.”

and i would say YES — this is precisely why Google guards its search-data and its algorithms, and this is why Rupert Murdoch’s $580 million purchase of MySpace was a _steal_ — he gets to own & exploit the vast amounts of data generated by MySpace users — from the rate at which bands are rising or sinking in popularity to what colors are favored by X type of person in Y geographic area with Z interests. Other companies would pay good money to get access to this stuff….

Folksonomy positivity is great but dwarfed, i fear, by privately-owned & controlled meta-data. and by metadata i mean _publicly_ generated maps of desire & datatrails in aggregate, like search histories geomapped to IP addr.

ps
have you checked http://de.lirio.us/ ?
like del.icio.us but open source.

]]> By: Kutuzov http://fortunegrey.com/2007/02/15/kids-arent-on-the-street#comment-24163 Kutuzov Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:15:30 +0000 http://fortunegrey.com/2007/02/15/kids-arent-on-the-street#comment-24163 It's all well and good to question what's happening with this data, but exposing the data to the public in the first place is making it fair game for anyone willing to exploit it. Currently I voluntarily make public my musical listening habits (last.fm), any idle thoughts (my blog), and links I want to remember (del.icio.us). If someone finds this information useful, I don't have a problem with them using it. But this was a conscious decision made the moment I made this information available. I don't for a second imagine my data alone is useful to anyone, but the aggregration of mine and others' data COULD be incredibly useful - and therefore valuable. It's a decision made by us all - and not a decision to be made lightly. It’s all well and good to question what’s happening with this data, but exposing the data to the public in the first place is making it fair game for anyone willing to exploit it.

Currently I voluntarily make public my musical listening habits (last.fm), any idle thoughts (my blog), and links I want to remember (del.icio.us). If someone finds this information useful, I don’t have a problem with them using it. But this was a conscious decision made the moment I made this information available. I don’t for a second imagine my data alone is useful to anyone, but the aggregration of mine and others’ data COULD be incredibly useful - and therefore valuable.

It’s a decision made by us all - and not a decision to be made lightly.

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