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A little trouble at big Triple J
Published on 31/07/07
by matt
At 30-something, Triple J’s been a crucial part of Australia’s music landscape for a long time now, certainly since the early ’90s alternative explosion. But there are signs of discontent, with people harking back to that golden era – which they were also doing at the time, it must be said. The fact that it commands a huge amount of power in the industry is an important piece of the puzzle: people at indie labels say getting the nod from Kingsmill at one of his all-too-brief listening sessions can make or break an artist.
That role came out in blog posts on Melb band The Basics and their persistent failure to attract Triple J interest, despite boasting JJJs fave Wally ‘Gotye’ de Backer in their numbers. The post attracted fierce debate on Mess+Noise‘s typically polarised forum – which divided along fandom boundaries: boring or marginalised.
The national radio station was designed to give the audience an outlet for music and radio-making that was different to the rest (i.e. commercial radio), according to Kingsmill, in an interview with Eliza Sarlos for M+N last year.
Eliza made the obvious comment that:
When what you’re defining yourselves against is as stagnant as it is (non stop blocks of rock, or manufactured pop, on repeat 24-7) the space offered to create an alternative is huge, and the places you can posit yourself are endless. I don’t want to be a hater, because I’m not – I think Triple J occupies an important space in Australian culture and the luxury of having a national youth broadcaster shouldn’t be undervalued – but I do feel that there are unnecessarily imposed limitations to the music that Triple J covers. According to my interviewees I’m not the only one.
Eliza’s firmly of the community radio/grass roots alternative take on radio – that it should be supporting interesting, exciting music. (That’s probably where I’m at too). But at the other end of the spectrum, Michael Tunn (“Tunny!” – former presenter who inspires emotions at both extremes) appeared in Crikey today (subscriber-only), lambasting the station for being alternative at the expense of its audience.
On the back of poor ratings performances in Newcastle and Darwin (six and five per cent respectively), and capital figures drifting around the bottom of the pack, according to Tunn, as well as the annual Hottest 100 number one position being taken out year in year out by commercial radio hits rather than Triple J faves, Tunn complained that:
Triple J, in its ivory tower at 700 Harris Street in Ultimo, sees no reason to respond or adjust to its target. Triple J believes it sets the agenda on what is cool.
There’s a remarkable par in Eliza’s piece that seems to articulate Kingsmill’s position:
“I think there’s a lot of people who will ignore the great work we do. They’ll never look at the effect that we’ve had and the bands that we’ve championed… I think there’s a certain amount of jealousy about Triple J and what we do. There are a lot of people in the press who are jealous of what we do who would like to work here who don’t work here who kind of think they could do a better job than what we do and so they’ll criticise us.” Kingsmill knows his words most likely apply to me, and they do in part. Although I don’t think I’d do a better job, just different.
Tunn says Triple J should:
Stop being scared of being mainstream, there is still a gulf of difference between Triple J and everyone else on the band, narrow it down, play a song because it appeals to your audience, not to the tastes of a desperately aging staff trying the maintain the coolness.
But that’s never been Triple J’s role. It’s not another commercial station, it’s to ‘entertain and inform’.
I doubt anyone sees Tunn as an impartial observer – Crikey gives David Flint column inches too – but Tunn may be right in saying that Triple J should be more like its “older sister” (ABC Local), though maybe less in terms of content, and more in terms of having local stations, local reporters and presenters who play a role in their local areas.
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Sean
01/08/07
Interesting stuff. Thanks for the post. I can’t say that I listen to JJJ all that much but as someone who comes from a country where there is no huge national “youth” station I can say that it is a great concept.
matt
02/08/07
Totally. People forget the criticism stems from listeners having a sense of ownership over the station – a good thing: people care.
Must be a lot of responsibility for people working at the station though, the few I’ve known well have been seriously passionate and involved.
liam s
02/08/07
Richard Kingsmill is incapable of dealing with the Burden of Responsibility that comes from being the Music Director of Australia’s only National Youth Broadcaster.
We are very lucky to have this thing called Triple J, but very unlucky to have a Music Director who squanders it on trying to reflect his version of ‘cool’, rather than reflecting the richness of the Australian youth scene.
This one-sidedness has led to what is known as the “Triple J sound”, and young bands striving to duplicate it in order to be successful.
This happens at the expense of acts that are truly unique and worthy of the nation’s attention – acts whose value is confirmed by real fans in real numbers.
These acts have placed their hearts, souls, blood, sweat and tears into their art, and for these dreams to be disintegrated without a second thought by a Sydneysider in his early 40s makes you wonder – is RK incompetent or downright evil?
Syms Covington
02/08/07
Liam S makes a great point. The ‘Triple J sound’ is one of the reasons the Sydney music scene at least is filled with bland copycats playing it safe to fit the cookie cutter Triple J definition of Australian alt-music.
Forgive me for harping on a point here, but when The Basics played a recent show in Sydney the Hopetoun was ridiculously packed full with nigh 300 people, way over capacity really, and still not a whisper from Triple J.
RK isn’t incompetent or evil, I think he’s just a stubborn man who once he makes a decision on something won’t back down and concede he was wrong. Which is very unhealthy for someone in his position.
Mike Taylor
02/09/09
Fantastic article. Fantastic comments.
Please join my facebook group committed to raise awareness of this stuff and make some minor changes with major positives for the national alt rock scene.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=121676124189&ref=mf
Please invite your contacts to do the same.
matt
02/09/09
Ben Eltham wrote a piece on the continuing story of Triple J for the latest issue of Meanjin, though for some reason it’s not available online. Possibly because they want to sell some copies of the journal.
Steve
06/09/09
I still listen to Triple J, and love most of the music on it. Which is better than most stations I listen to. Where I really have a problem with them is when they are playing the same songs over and over again. They don’t need to be a commercial station, they don’t need to repeat songs, they don’t need to play big overseas bands, and they certainly don’t need to play the same thing in every capitol city. If Kingsmill insists on having a play list when there are so many really knowledgeable announcers, go to a commercial station. Let the independents and the small bands get on. Let the young bands try something different, let the music go where it wants to go.
Jazz was originally a music with no boundries, now it has a following that expects certain boundaries or it is “Not Jazz”. The point of jazz was pushing the boundaries, and the point of JJJ was originally to push the boundaries. It if becoming a formula, and not meeting the needs it set out to meet.
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